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Suicide is an unnatural death and will get the bonus points in 2020-21. As will, to pick a completely ludicrous scenario, being stabbed to death in prison because you snitched on your own gang and refused witness protection.

Angela Rippon Moira Stuart John Humphries Micheal Burke Anna Ford

I have done exactly the same, for the same reason. After reading this post, as well. Doh.

I've done this as a separate topic from the Time Added thread, because the Time Added thread is very catch-all, as a football thread will be. I can only go by the English Football League, as I don't have access to the Scottish records, but hopefully someone can copy and paste the Scottish only players for reference here. There are a number of people definitely alive and they come in the first set of information. Of those that I'm not certain of, there will definitely be some alive but there's no report recently on them to confirm that, or no general "oldest player" posts or snippets on the web. Barry Hugman's Footballers was the backup source for the list and basically it's been going through Google, BHF, UK and Ireland Family Records, Scottish Death Indexes and Probate searches to eliminate other possibilities. Some footballers I couldn't find death records for but when some clubs have gone "such and such is our oldest player" then it's made life easier. Here's the edited to include 1930-1934 births: First Name Surname DoB Clubs Google Other names Eric Hampson 11/11/1921 Stoke, Stafford Rangers Australia? Syd Ward 26/11/1923 Bradford, Upton Colliery x Ted Harding 05/04/1925 Crystal P, Coalville x Edward James Bill Mellor 29/06/1925 Accrington, Droyslden probably dead William Bill Parker 15/08/1925 Reading, Swindon, Exeter x William B Eryk Kubicki 18/08/1925 York, Polish Army x Eugeniusz Joe Lancaster 28/04/1926 Accrington, Manchester United alive Joseph Gerard Ray McKee 16/06/1926 Northampton, Finchley alive Raymond Trevor Eddie Lewis 21/06/1926 Leyton O x Trevor Hitchen 25/09/1926 Southport, Wigan, Oldham, Notts Cty, Wellington, Halifax alive Robert Williams 25/10/1927 Liverpool, Shrewsbury, Wrexham x Robert Raymond Bobby Godwin 03/02/1928 Swindon, Old Headlandians alive Robert Geoffrey Charles Campbell 27/02/1928 Oldham, Rutherglen Glencairn x Reg Chapman 14/06/1928 Crewe, Hereford x John Scott 18/07/1928 Leeds, Workington alive John Alfred Bernard Kelly 21/08/1928 Brentford, Bath City Bernard Alexander Harry Jarvis 08/10/1928 Notts County, Worksop alive Alan Layton 27/11/1928 Barrow, Bolton Alive in 2012, Canada Harry Williams 24/02/1929 Swindon, Bury, West Ham, Man U x Henry George John Core 29/03/1929 Halifax alive Joe Harris 08/04/1929 Oldham, Blackburn Moved back to Northern Ireland Ernie Bond 04/05/1929 Carlisle, Man Utd alive James Ernest Don Gibson 12/05/1929 Leyton O, Sheff W, Man U alive Thomas Richard Donald Ron Steel 03/06/1929 Darlington, Bishop Auckland x (ex RAF) John Cook 26/06/1929 Bristol Rovers x John Albert Roy Killin 18/07/1929 Lincoln, Man U alive Harold Roy Terry Robinson 08/11/1929 Brentford, Northampton, England Amateur alive Terence Hogarth Johnny Langland 09/11/1929 hartlepool, Blyth, Chesterfield, Sunderland, Silksworth alive John R Liam Coll 16/12/1929 Accrington probably dead William Sean Johnny Moffatt 22/12/1929 Brighton, Bellshill x John Black Ron Harbertson 23/12/1929 Lincoln, Darlington, Wrexham, Grimsby, Bradford, Brighton, Newcastle alive Jim Storey 30/12/1929 Darlington, Rochdale, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Exeter x Eric Marsden 03/01/1930 Crystal Palace, Southend, Winchester, Shrewsbury Reg Pearce 12/01/1930 Peterborough, Sunderland, Luton alive Reginald Stanley Fred Higgins 21/01/1930 Crystal Palace GRO OKAY Frederick Thomas Cecil Law 10/03/1930 Derby, Bury GRO OKAY probably dead in RSA Cecil Richard Jack Hobbs 17/04/1930 Bournemouth, Swanage GRO OKAY John Eric Len Edwards 30/05/1930 Crewe, Brighton, Sheff W, Wrexham GRO OKAY Leonard Owen Doug Fletcher 17/09/1930 Scunthorpe, Bury, Sheffield Weds, Darlington, Halifax Albert Childs 25/09/1930 Liverpool alive Albert Robert Allan Senior 29/09/1930 Halifax alive (alive in Wakefield 2024) Allan Gordon James McQuade 14/10/1930 Halifax, Dumbarton Colin McDonald 15/10/1930 Burnley and England alive Colin Agnew Eric Gill 03/11/1930 Brighton, Charlton alive Eric Norman Peter Higham 08/11/1930 Bolton, Doncaster, Nottm Forest, Preston, Portsmouth, Wigan alive Tommy Derbyshire 10/12/1930 Hartlepool, East Yorks Regiment poss alive - 2018 Thomas L Robert Harrison 23/12/1930 Carlisle, Stockport, Mossley Bert Carberry 16/01/1931 Gillingham, Port Vale, Norwich, Exeter Robert Arthur Tyrer 25/02/1931 Aldershot, Shrewsbury, Leeds Utd alive Arthur Spencer Matt Gemmell 10/03/1931 Portsmouth, Swindon poss alive in Scotland 2018 Alex Bell 13/03/1931 Exeter, Grimsby, Partick Back in Scotland Alexander Stewart Jimmy Thomson 17/03/1931 Southend, Raith ALIVE James Donaldson Ralph Granville 23/04/1931 Clyde, Nottingham Forest, Gateshead alive in 2005 in Scotland? Anthony Ralph Tommy Wilkinson 08/05/1931 Hartlepool, Blackhall Colliery died 2010? David McDonald 09/05/1931 Crystal Palace, Dundee Violet David Anderson Joe Eaton 16/05/1931 Mansfield, Langwith BC GRO OKAY (def alive 2014) Joseph David William Devlin 30/05/1931 Carlisle, Peterborough Eric Jones 23/06/1931 Accrington, Southport, Doncaster, Preston, Nottm Forest alive Brian Cripsey 26/06/1931 Hull City, Wrexham alive Brian Samuel David Hawkins 11/08/1931 Gillingham, Sheppey United GRO OKAY David John Ken Scott 13/08/1931 Derby, Mansfield Don Cowan 17/08/1931 Darlington GRO OKAY, alive 2021 Bill Finney 05/09/1931 Rochdale, Crewe, QPR, Birmingham, Stoke alive Charles William Thomas Billy Waters 19/09/1931 Millwall, Wrexham, Swansea, Southend, Stoke, Blackpool GRO OKAY, alive 2013 in wales William Anthony Des Palmer 23/09/1931 Swansea, Wales, Liverpool, Derby alive in Australia Desmond Frederick Bert Harris 21/11/1931 Everton, Tranmere, Southport alive Albert Edward Noel Gilbert 25/12/1931 Norwich City alive George Brown 12/01/1932 Crewe, Stenhousemuir Bill Leivers 29/01/1932 Doncaster, Manchester City, Chesterfield alive William Ernest Joe Sharman 02/02/1932 Derby, Gresley, Bradford alive (Joseph) Donald William John McTavish 02/02/1932 Manchester City alive in 2009 in Scotland John Robert Byron Davies 05/02/1932 Newport, Leeds alive in 2017 Jimmy Rolfe 08/02/1932 Crewe, Barrow, Chester, Liverpool alive in 2017 Pat Thompson 11/02/1932 Brighton, Topsham Patrick Alfred Bobby Seith 09/03/1932 Burnley, Dundee alive Dave Richardson 11/03/1932 Barrow, Swindon, Grimsby, Leicester alive in 2017 Ray Snowball 16/03/1932 Darlington alive Alan Gee 16/03/1932 Rotherham John McGrath 21/03/1932 Notts County, Darlington prob dead Tommy Quigley 26/03/1932 QPR, Portsmouth, Barry Town Might be in Scotland Thomas Cook Calvin Symonds 29/03/1932 Rochdale, Bermuda alive Roderick Calvin Hilgrove Ron Ward 29/03/1932 Darlington, Tottenham Henry Ronald Eric Doughty 09/04/1932 Arsenal, Plymouth alive Keith Abbiss 26/04/1932 Brighton, Letchworth Keith Douglas Ken Smales 03/05/1932 Hull alive Peter Rees 05/05/1932 Tranmere alive Peter Noel Ray DeGruchy 18/05/1932 Grimsby, Chesterfield, Nottm Forest alive Raymond Philip Colin Bettany 15/06/1932 Torquay, Birmingham, Crewe alive Colin David Arthur Barnard 20/06/1932 Bolton,Stockport, Southport alive Robert Bloor 08/07/1932 Crewe Ron Tulloch 15/07/1932 Berea, South Africa, Hull Roland Ray Hampson 27/07/1932 Reading, Bournemouth, Manchester United, Aldershot alivein 2015 Raymond Geoffrey Johnny King 09/08/1932 Crewe, Stoke, Cardiff alive John William Micky Stewart 16/09/1932 Charlton, Corinthian Casuals alive Michael James Jim Lovie 19/09/1932 Peterhead, Bury, Bournemouth, Chesterfield alive James Theirs Harrison Joe Thomas 22/09/1932 Barnsley, Wolves, Mansfield, Chesterfield John Charles Jack Harrison 30/09/1932 Crewe Colin Askey 03/10/1932 Mansfield, Walsall, Port Vale alive Harry Sandys 08/10/1932 Torquay, Yeovil Harold Albert Norman Crickett 13/10/1932 Carlisle, Raffles Rovers alive Peter Thomas 18/10/1932 Exeter, Cardiff, Newport Peter John Gordon Jago 22/10/1932 Charlton alive Gordon Harold Stan Taylor 17/11/1932 Southport Ronnie Sharp 22/11/1932 Doncaster, Arbroath Bobby Williams 24/11/1932 New Brighton, Chester Robert Francis Ronnie Waldock 06/12/1932 Sheff Utd, Gillingham, Middlesbrough, Plymouth, Scunthorpe, Coventry alive Richard Jackson 13/12/1932 Rotherham, York Richard George Mike Tomkys 14/12/1932 QPR, Fulham alive Michael George Tommy Cronin 17/12/1932 Reading, Fulham Thomas Patrick Bernard Weakley 20/12/1932 Rotherham alive Derek McLean 21/12/1932 Hartlepool, Middlesbrough alive John Derek Arnold D'Arcy 13/01/1933 Accrington, Swindon alive 2018 Arnold Joseph Tommy Murray 14/01/1933 Falkirk, Leeds, QOTS, Tranmere ALIVE David Storrar 16/01/1933 Sheff W alive 2013 David McKinnon Robert Johnston 28/01/1933 Carlisle Alan Ross 07/02/1933 Oldham, Accrington, Bishop Auckland Alan Wicks 08/02/1933 Reading alive 2012 Alan Hayward Graham Wood 10/02/1933 Wolves, Halifax Peter Dawson 19/02/1933 Crewe Irvine Gray 27/02/1933 Gillingham, Barnsley Irvine William George Lowden 02/03/1933 Brentford Roy Kenyon 10/03/1933 Southport, Worcester, Bolton Brian Hopkins 15/03/1933 Port Vale Peter Walker 31/03/1933 Watford ALIVE Peter Martin Eric Hodge 03/04/1933 Aldershot, Brighton Lives in RSA Eric Richard Carew Ernie Walley 07/04/1933 Tottenham, Middlesbro, Crystal Palace ALIVE Johnny Watkins 09/04/1933 Bristol C, Cardiff, Bristol Rovers, Chippenham ALIVE John Vincent Malcolm Tucker 12/04/1933 Grimsby Peter Carey 14/04/1933 QPR, Leyton O, Colchester, Aldershot, Barking Peter Richard Jimmy Mason 17/04/1933 Accrington, Chester, Crystal Palace Arthur Evans 13/05/1933 Bury, Stockport, Gillingham Peter MacEwan 23/05/1933 Luton South Africa Malcolm Peter Keith Goalen 24/05/1933 Stockport, Macclesfield ALIVE Harold Keith Brian Whitnall 25/05/1933 Scunthorpe, Exeter, Hull ALIVE Mike Collins 08/06/1933 Watford, Chelsea ALIVE Ronald Michael Gordon Hopkinson 19/06/1933 Bristol C, Doncaster, Cheltenham, Toronto, Margate Canada? ALIVE Jackie Farrell 22/06/1933 Accrington Colin Longden 21/07/1933 Rotherham, York alive in 2018 Ivan Green 29/07/1933 Millwall, Margate alive 2018 (nr Chichester?) Ivan David John Inglis 05/08/1933 Gateshead, Blyth Eddie Firmani 07/08/1933 Southend, Charlton, Genoa, South Africa ALIVE Edward Ronald Bill Albury 10/08/1933 Portsmouth, Gillingham, Yeovil alive in 2016 William Frederick Don Kitchenbrand 13/08/1933 Rangers, Sunderland ALIVE (RSA) Donald Basil Ron Broad 18/08/1933 Crewe Brian Jones 05/09/1933 Walsall, Royal Engineers Bernard Molyneux 17/09/1933 Everton, Tranmere alive 2018 John Nesbitt 24/09/1933 Newcastle Coldstream Guards John Davies 26/09/1933 Portsmouth, Walsall, Scunthorpe John Robert Tom McGlennon 20/10/1933 Barrow, Blackpool, Rochdale, Burton Canada? Alan Finney 31/10/1933 Doncaster, Sheff W ALIVE Gordon Chilvers 15/11/1933 Walsall Gordon Malcolm Brian Griffiths 21/11/1933 Wrexham, Chester, Holywell, Caernarfon Guy Trise 22/11/1933 Aldershot, Portsmouth Lives in US? Guy Gavin George Horne 23/11/1933 Carlisle, Maryhill Gerry Francis 06/12/1933 Leeds, York alive Jimmy Ashall 13/12/1933 Leeds United alive 1996 Gloucestershire John Newman 13/12/1933 Leicester, Birmingham, Plymouth, Exeter ALIVE John Henry George Keith Dibden 17/12/1933 Southampton, Gillingham ALIVE William Keith Peter Burridge 30/12/1933 Millwall, Crystal Palace, Leyton Orient, Charlton ALIVE Peter John Earl Godding 06/01/1934 Wrexham, Workington ALIVE Earl George John Brown 02/02/1934 Shrewsbury, Queens Park John Michael Alan Gibbs 07/02/1934 Swindon, Cardiff John Robinson 10/02/1934 Middlesbrough, Hartlepool Leonard Geard 12/02/1934 Fulham, Brentford alive Ken Brown 16/02/1934 West Ham, Torquay ALIVE Ronnie Burbeck 27/02/1934 Darlington, Hereford, Middlesbrough, Leicester alive 2021 in Hereford Ronald Thomas Brian Dobson 01/03/1934 Colchester alive 2019 Brian Ashley Bert Brown 04/03/1934 Exeter. QPR, Crystal Palace Moved to Australia, probably dead Albert Edward Bill Heath 15/03/1934 Bournemouth, Lincoln alive William Henry Mansell Tommy King 02/04/1934 Barrow, Holker Thomas Frederick William Berry 04/04/1934 Mansfield, Langwith Miners Peter Warmington 08/04/1934 Birmingham Peter John Joseph Hall 10/04/1934 Fulham Joseph Edgar Jimmy O'Donnell 18/04/1934 Leeds, Blackburn, Oldham Peter McParland 25/04/1934 Aston Villa, Northern Ireland, Plymouth, Wolves alive Adam Hogg 26/04/1934 Airdrie, Swindon, Dumbarton Pat O'Connor 01/05/1934 Barrow, Bellshill Bill Punton 04/05/1934 Newcastle, Norwich, Scunthorpe, Southend, Sheffield Utd ALIVE William Hamilton Graham Sissons 20/05/1934 Birmingham, Peterborough, Walsall alive John Graham Bryan Douglas 27/05/1934 Blackburn, England ALIVE Derek Middleton 30/05/1934 York, Burton John Parrott 05/06/1934 Scunthorpe alive 2012 John Frank Peter Goldie 07/06/1934 Aldershot, Celtic ALIVE Jimmy Fisher 12/06/1934 Barrow, Holker Gordon Atherton 18/06/1934 Bury, Swindon ALIVE Francis Gordon Dai Evans 19/06/1934 Crewe David Bob Wilson 29/06/1934 Accrington, Norwich, Chester, Gillingham Alive 2018 in Scotland Robert Smail Whitelaw Bill Lloyd 10/07/1934 Milwall William Frederick Denis Thompson 19/07/1934 Scunthorpe, Chesterfield alive (definitely alive 2021) John Street 27/07/1934 Bradford C poss dead Doug Moran 29/07/1934 Hibs, Falkirk, Ipswich, Dundee U, Cowdenbeath ALIVE Douglas William Cyril Lea 05/08/1934 Wales, Ipswich, Leyton Orient ALIVE Jack Dougal 07/08/1934 Halifax, Pegasus alive 2008 John Alan Dicks 29/08/1934 Chelsea, Southend ALIVE Alan Victor Terry Swinscoe 31/08/1934 Stockport, Mansfield ALIVE Tony Book 04/09/1934 Plymouth, Manchester City ALIVE Bobby Hunt 04/09/1934 Wrexham, Chester Alive in 2011 Jimmy Scott 07/09/1934 Oldham, Burnley George Warburton 13/09/1934 Barrow, Wrexham alive 2018 Sam Shaw 14/09/1934 Crewe George Fagan 27/09/1934 Halifax , Dundee St. Joseph Ben Newton 10/10/1934 Grimsby Joe Cooper 15/10/1934 Newcastle Frank Blunstone 17/10/1934 Crewe, Chelsea, England ALIVE Roy Campbell 19/10/1934 Congleton, Crewe ALIVE Congleton Bobby Burke 05/11/1934 Burnley, Chester Probably in Northern Ireland Robert Gallee Brian Atkinson 16/11/1934 Halifax Bert Gebbie 18/11/1934 Bradford PA, QOTS alive 2015 in Scotland Robert Brown Robertson Sylvan Anderton 23/11/1934 QPR, Chelsea, Reading ALIVE Sylvan James Joby Dean 25/11/1934 Bradford PA, QPR, Sutton Town, Thoresby ALIVE (2024) Billy Hunt 25/11/1934 Colchester William Edmund Terry Dyson 29/11/1934 Tottenham, Fulham, Colchester ALIVE Brian Sutton 08/12/1934 Rochdale Ray Kirkham 16/12/1934 Mansfield alive 2003 Raymond Neville Bernard Stonehouse 23/12/1934 Rochdale alive 2013 Colin Booth 30/12/1934 Oxford, Doncaster, Nottm F, Wolves alive in Oxford

Lol half you people will predecease the game’s end.

Don’t laugh- It happened to me.

He had such a Promising career

No puns. I Promise.

Illustrator Mac Conner has died at 105 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/arts/mac-conner-dead.html

< edges away nervously >

David Vincent of Morbid Angel took over from Lemmy in The Head Cat playing alongside Danny B.Harvey (Rockats) and Slim Jim Phantom (Stray Cats). Since the head part of the band name was from Motorhead, I suggested they change the name to Morbid Cat. They politely rejected the suggestion

Dani Filth* (male singer of noughties rock band Cradle of Filth) once tried to pick a fight with (I forget who actually, but a much taller musician so lets call it Dave Grohl just for the sake of the anecdote). Filth is 5 foot 3, so "Grohl" was actually able to do the Scrappy Doo "hand on the smaller persons head to hold them back while they try to start a fight" bit for real. True story, honest. *Not to say he had a rep, but ask most music journos who'd met the band 15 years ago what they thought of him and they all said how lovely Sarah (the band's female singer) was instead!

Roger Taillibert, who designed Parc des Princes in Paris and Olympic Stadium in Montreal, has died. He was 93. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/roger-taillibert-who-designed-montreal-s-olympic-stadium-has-died-at-93-1.4622789

Report on William Simpson's 100th birthday. https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/people/former-professional-football-player-turns-100-1-10032424

Playmate Claudia Jennings died on this day 40 years ago, aged 29.

Now he's had two, maybe he'll stop attacking the top "one per stent".... *coat*

Well she was late!

The star of Harriet Nelson faded away on this day 25 years ago, aged 85.

Tim off The Circle (UK reality show) and Robin Williams

God likes geniuses: Leicester City Manager - Brendan Rodgers Former Doctor Who actor - Christopher Eccleston

Jacques Villeneuve, F1 champion Fergal Lawler, Cranberries drummer

That is just too fucking scary for words!

Just like the rest of us, Temporarily 21.

The story ended for Jacqueline Susann on this day 45 years ago, aged 56.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49925424 Isaac Promise: Former Nigeria striker dies aged 31