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Steve Halliwell QO: https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2023-12-15/emmerdale-actor-steve-halliwell-dies-aged-77 Should be noted he is being reported as having died aged 77, so the dob on the DDP is incorrect - it should be 1946, not 1954.

Phew, the last time the 90s saw a shootout this intense, 2Pac ended up in an urn. Anyway, after that viciously fought top-10, Nina Persson finally gets the validation she has yearned for for 27 years. Some might say the result was unexpected, but you can't exactly say it's an outrage. The deserved winner of the best No.2 of the 90s is...The Cardigans — Lovefool So, the full results of our awesome final: 1st: The Cardigans — Lovefool 2nd: Deee-Lite — Groove Is In The Heart 3rd: The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony 4th: Madonna — Beautiful Stranger 5th: Supergrass — Alright / Time 6th: Kylie Minogue — Confide In Me 7th: Pulp — Common People 8th: Blur — Song 2 9th: James — Sit Down 10th: Natalie Imbruglia — Torn 11th: Ace Of Base — The Sign 12th: Fatboy Slim — Right Here, Right Now 13th: DNA ft. Suzanne Vega — Tom’s Diner 14th: Haddaway — What Is Love 15th: KLF ft. Tammy Wynette — Justified & Ancient 16th: Ce Ce Penistone — Finally 17th: Stardust — Music Sounds Better With You 18th: The Corrs — Runaway 19th: Alannah Myles - Black Velvet 20th: Pulp — Mis-Shapes / Sorted For E’s And Wizz 21st: Madonna — Ray Of Light 22nd: Freddie Mercury & Montserrat Caballé — Barcelona 23rd: Natalie Imbruglia — Big Mistake 24th: Kris Kross — Jump 25th: Chumbawamba — Tubthumping There they are, the best 25. God, the 90s were shit hot. Some of it, however, was just shit. Here's the worst 25 of the game, as voted by us: Right Said Fred — I’m Too Sexy Gazza & Lindisfarne — Fog On The Tyne Various Artists — The Brits 1990 Madonna — Hanky Panky Londonbeat — I’ve Been Thinking About You Take That — Why Can’t I Wake Up With You Snow — Informer Smart E’s — Sesame’s Treet Nick Berry — Heartbeat 2 Unlimited — Twilight Zone Oasis — Wonderwall Boyzone — Love Me For A Reason Mariah Carey — All I Want For Christmas Is You Boyzone — Father And Son All-4-One — I Swear Sarah Brightman & Andrea Bocelli — Time To Say Goodbye Peter Andre — Mysterious Girl Boyzone — Picture Of You Oasis — Stand By Me 3T — Anything Boyzone — I Love The Way You Love Me Cartoons — Witch Doctor Geri Halliwell — Look At Me Mousse T — Horny Fat Les — Vindaloo Jesus Christ. We weren't counting the kills this time, and frankly the competition was all the better for it. But I think it's a safe assumption that theoldlady did the lion's share of it. So, until the No.3s, that's the 90s done. I'm genuinely saddened. Now, before we go forwards, we must briefly go back...to the 60s! Coming soon (as in, the next few mins)

Why a french deathlist you may ask ? Well, why not ? This site is filled with french-speaking, french enthusiasts and other french nerds who fight every year to see their favorite names included on the official list. And what a disappointment to see, year after year, that our wishes, like most of those expressed here, are not listened to by the committee (ie. Bernadette Chirac)… And as there is no such thing as an official French Deathlist site or forum (except this weird one), we began to loose hope of ever being adequately represented… Fear not ! The official French Deahtlist is coming soon ! The little community of french deathpoolers on this site have gathered in the last few months and after many talks, endless dithering and hasty reorganization (Cf. Gerard Collomb and Emmanuel Leroy Ladurie) we came up with a list of 50 french-speaking personalities (and not exclusively french per se) whom, we think, could die in 2024. This list was made possible thanks to the involvement of @BeretBleu @etib80, @Fantomasss, @La Tombe, @thadee and I. A special thanks to @Book whose help and example with the DACH list have greatly facilitated our task ! We will only post here in english and only on news about our 50 picks. Others news and talks about french personalities will take place in the French Speaking Deathlist thread. Every time a hit occurs, we will post it here, cross his or her name on the list on front page, and I'll make a quick recap on the deceased hit. We hope it'll be successful and that you'll enjoy it The official list will be unveiled on the eve of the 31st of december or on the morning of the 1st january. Till then… Bonne chance !

You’re back! That’s nice. It’s another edition of Deathlist’s jovial jukebox of judgement, Kill or Save! We are exploring the top end of the UK music charts, from the 60s right through to the 00s, and we’re going great guns in our quest to sort out the best songs which fell just shy of reaching the coveted top spot. The nailbiter of a 90s final saw the top 10 virtually inseparable for what felt like a couple of years, but eventually, a hugely surprising top-2 shootout saw kitsch little Swedish bop Lovefool crowned the winner of an accolade that frankly dwarfs anything you’ll see in televised awards ceremonies: deathlist.net's Best UK Charts No.2 of the 1990s. So, that was the 90s, but before we move forward, we must go back. The 60s was an interesting decade. People were wearing new types of clothes, going out to new types of places, smoking new types of stuff, and experimenting with new types of music. Rock, pop, soul, psychedelia, tunes your nan hummed along to, it’s all here. So come one, come all: we have 128 of such things to whittle down to 1. Oh joy. A big fat congratuwelldone is in order, for this is our 10th edition of the game! Over 400 days, over 16,000 posts and quite the hall of fame we’re building. (see most recent game) Fancy reliving all the action? See below for links to all Kill or Save games to date: 50s No.1s; 60s No.1s; 70s No.1s; 80s No.1s; 90s No.1s; 00s No.1s; 10s No.1s 50s No.2s; 60s No.2s (you are here); 70s No.2s; 80s No.2s; 90s No.2s; 00s No.2s; 10s No.2s 70s No.3s; 80s No.3s; 90s No.3s (IN PLAY!) Christmas Special 2023; Christmas Special 2024 KoS HoF Bobby Darin — Mack The Knife The Rolling Stones — Paint It, Black Donna Summer — I Feel Love Nena — 99 Red Balloons Madonna — Vogue Gorillaz — Dare Gotye ft. Kimbra — Somebody That I Used To Know Dean Martin — Volare Barry Ryan — Eloise Queen — Somebody To Love A-Ha — Take On Me The Cardigans — Lovefool Sophie Ellis-Bextor — Murder On The Dancefloor Bastille — Pompeii David Bowie — Life On Mars? Tears For Fears — Mad World The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York Queen — Bohemian Rhapsody / These Are The Days Of Our Lives A quick reminder of how it works: - Each song starts with 20 points (whether it deserves it or not). - You can only vote once a day. To avoid any time zone confusion, please put a date at the top of your scoring post (e.g. “Fri 15 Dec”, “15-12-2023”, whatever, as long as it’s clear and doesn’t just say “today” or some shit.) - Once a day, you can award 4 points to and subtract 6 from the songs of your choosing in the current round. You can split your daily +4 and -6 between as many songs as you like, it’s down to you. - Ideally give a little listen to any songs in the list you don’t know already before voting. You are, after all, voting based on how good/bad you think each song is. I know it takes a few mins of precious time, but hey, it could be an education. - Please do bump off any songs you dislike/consider to be the weakest link, but don’t for fuck sake just knock them down because they’re scoring low. This is meant to gauge collective opinion, it’s not a massacre and we’re not pushed for time. Be tactical, be contrary, but be true to what you actually think. - Make sure you copy and paste the most recent voter’s scoreboard when you take your turn to score. For your own ease, ‘paste as plain text’ to get rid of the previous poster’s formatting. - Just to make it clear for everyone, please mark your scores after the song title and adjust the song’s points total as you go. Ideally make your scores bold too. As an example: 24 Absolute Tune — Slaps +4 20 Ignore — Lift Music 20 Bland — Drowning In Beige 19 The Cleveland Steamers — Dog Egg -1 16 Ear Piss — Left To Die 15 Shite — Hateful Bilge -5 Everyone makes mistakes sometimes, so I’d just like to shout out to all of our careful and attentive players who are shit hot on any potential errors that may arise. This here is serious business don’t you know, so thank you for keeping things in order. See, below, the complete list of UK No.2 songs from the 1960s. I’ll warn you, it’s not all good: God. As ever, we will start with 5 group stages, beginning with the No.2 hits of 1960/61, followed by a grand final consisting of the 25 songs that have qualified, where we will ultimately decide what the undisputed best No.2 single of the 1960s is, and the artist of said song will, pfft, I dunno, spin in their grave probably? 1960/61: 17 songs - the last 4 songs will make the final 1962/63: 26 songs - the last 5 songs will make the final 1964/65: 23 songs - the last 5 songs will make the final 1966/67: 36 songs - the last 6 songs will make the final 1968/69: 26 songs - the last 5 songs will make the final Right, sound the alarms in the residential home, for it’s time…to Kill or Save.

Lovefool is my personal No.10 in this final so it's a song I really like. However, Groove is in the heart, my No. 3, is more iconic imo.

Jimmy Carter Rob Burrow Iris Apatow Noam Chomsky June Spencer

Awarded damages by the Mirror.

Spotify Playlist for this game

Right Said Fred & Snow deserved better tbh

She still looks quite elegant for someone who is nearly 80 and has terminal cancer, in that photo at least.

Here's a small but important update to brighten up someone's Friday morning. Only 2 hits to report since the last update, unless you know of any more obscure names who have decided not to celebrate Christmas this year. 5th December: Norman Lear 12th December: Fusa Tatsumi Lear exiting the stage has brought some respectability to @tracyand @WhoamIwho are now safely in mid table (and above me). More significantly, @LizLemonhas squeezed into contention, rising up into 6th place and within 2 hits of the leader. A joker will not do it, as our leader @gcreptilehas her Roberta Flack joker covered. Of even more significance is the demise of Tatsumi, a Joker hit for @diego who sprints up into third position within a hit of the leader. I bet he likes that!. Here is where we stand with a little over 2 weeks to go. Late drama anyone? Gcreptile (2204 points) 12 hits [Burt Bacharach, Chris Snow, Daniel N Paul, Frederic Forrest, George Alagiah, Grant Turner, Haris Ibrahim, Henry Kissinger, Johnny Ruffo, Menahem Pressler, Roland Griffiths, William Consovoy] Dying Probably (2069 points) 10 hits [Betty Boothroyd, Harry Belafonte, Hazel McCallion*, Henry Kissinger, James L. Buckley, Nigel Lawson, Rosalynn Carter, Sandra Day-O’Connor, Shane MacGowan, Tony Bennett] Diego (1955 points) 9 hits [Felix Sienra, Fusa Tatsumi*, Gianluca Vialli, Giorgio Napolitano, King Constantine, Milan Kundera, Rolf Harris, Shane MacGowan, Wei Wei] Wannamaker (1935 points) 12 hits [Bob Barker, Frank McGarvey, George Alagiah, Giorgio Napolitano, Henry Kissinger, King Constantine, Martti Ahtisaari, Milan Kundera, Pervez Musharraf, Rolf Harris, Ryiuchi Sakamoto, Ted Kaczynski] Thatcher (1897 points) 10 hits [Federico Bahamontes, George Alagiah, Gianluca Vialli, Gina Lollobrigida, Josh Ackland, Milan Kundera, Rolf Harris*, Rosalynn Carter, Ted Kaczynski, Tony Bennett] LizLemon (1738 points) 7 hits [Burt Bacharach, Frederic Forrest, Henry Kissinger, Norman Lear, Rosalynn Carter, Sandra Day-Connor, Tony Bennett]

December Will Be Magic has suffered from not being on many compilation albums. I think I bought my daughter at least three different Now Christmas albums over the years and it was on none of them. I did eventually find a compilation with it on which my Brother-in-law had but that was so old it contained Another Rock and Roll Christmas

Are my eyes deceiving me or did Kate Bush vanish @theoldlady @Toast

Ken MacKenzie (baseball player who died today) and Jack Antonoff (pop producer extraordinaire)

The game could be over in 3 moves (hope to fuck not!). Or it could be over in 17. Tbh the only one of the three I suspected might make the top five was Bitter Sweet Symphony. I'm genuinely amazed the other two are here and fighting until the very last.

15/Dec/2023 22 The Cardigans — Lovefool +4 13 The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony -6 05 Deee-Lite — Groove Is In The Heart

Travis Dopp has died Small Brown Bike was a classic emo-post hardcore band for me. extremely sad about this one. Don't expect obits past like, BrooklynVegan.

@arghton@wannamaker@ladyfiona Hello, I know it's a little bit late, and I have been procrastinating a lot (I would have done it a lot sooner if my PC had gotten fixed earlier), but here are finally the results of the Alive List. I'm currently sick, so I thought this would be the perfect time to complete this project. Ladyfiona could be leading if Geoff Brown is still alive, which is highly unlikely, as there is a 22-year-old obituary of him circulating on the internet with a different birth date than in his public records, but the same wife nonetheless. So, I count him as dead for now. The rest of us all have only 44 folks alive, so the difference would be marginal anyway, and the flu season could change the outcome quite a bit. There is time until December 31. With kind regards, Maybe the worst host in all of Deathlist Forum History and certainly the laziest. Lists: Argthon (34/40): 1. María Isabel Rodríguez 2. Wei Wei (2 November 2023) 3. Zou Yu 4. Phyllis Latour (7 October 2023) 5. Michael Loewe 6. Valdas Adamkus 7. Aira Samulin (23 October 2023) 8. Juan Ponce Enrile 9. L.K. Advani 10. Mengesha Seyoum 11. Jonnie Irwin 12. Cynthia Mulligan 13. Gary Glenn (27 July 2023) 14. Jason Becker 15. Tempt One/Tony Quan (1 September 2023) 16. Vytautas Landsbergis 17. Ilia II of Georgia 18. Harald V 19. Chiam See Tong 20. Maria Nyerere 21. William Roache 22. Olusegun Obasanjo 22. Alan Alda 23. James Earl Jones 24. Vigdís Finnbogadóttir 25. Than Shwe 26. Anastasios of Albania 27. Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati 28. Warren Buffett 29. Henepola Gunaratana 30. DD Lapang 31. Princess Mette-Marit 32. Ram Narayan 33. Parkash Singh Badal (25 April 2023) 34. Choe Yong-rim 35. Sam Nujoma 36. Yoshiro Nakamatsu 37. Bibhash Chakraborty 38. Win Htein 39. Juha Väätäinen 40. Ong Pang Boon Ladyfiona (34/40): 1. Bob Barker (26 August 2023) 2. June Spencer 3. Janis Paige 4. Virginia Halas McCaskey 5. Iris Apfel 6. Dick van Dyke 7. Burt Bacharach (8 February 2023) 8. Geoff Brown (Tennis player) (20 June 2001) 9. Tomiichi Murayama 10. Jacqueline Ceballos 11. Mark Pilgrim (5 March 2023) 12. Janey Godley 13. Shannen Doherty 14. Roberta Flack 15. Tim Green (American Football) 16. Billy Connolly 17- Derek Martin 18. Tony Caunter 19. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 20. Michael J. Fox 21. Christy Turlington 22. Andrew Simmons 23. Ozzy Osbourne 24. Damar Hamlin 25. Steven Spielberg 26. James Earl Jones 27. Britt Mchenry 28. Johnny Ruffo (10 November 2023) 29. Michael Tilson Thomas 30. Derek Draper 31. Tony Christie 32. Ron Jeremy 33. Bruce Willis 34. Eric Idle 35. Ruschell Boone (3 September 2023) 36. Patsy Kensit 37. Chris Ellison 38. Jo Wilson 39. Malandra Burrows 40. Ken Watanabe Prophet (34/40): 1. Roland Dumas 2. Henry Kissinger (29 November 2023) 3. Traute Lavrenz (6 March 2023) 4. Norman Lear (5 December 2023) 5. Glynis Johns 6. Hans Modrow (10 February 2023) 7. Kim Yong-nam 8. Dick Van Dyke 9. Mel Brooks 10. Ruth Westheimer 11. Wolfgang Bosbach 12. Edward Stourton 13. Rainer Langhans 14. Roberta Flack 15. Marcus Stewart 16. Michael Caine 17. Rupert Murdoch 18. Ottfried Fischer 19. Billy Connolly 20. Gunther von Hagens 21. Tony Christie 22. Mario Adorf 23. Sue Lopez 24. Buzz Aldrin 25. Eric Idle 26. Karl Heinz Hoffmann 27. Prunella Scales 28. William Shatner 29. June Squibb 30. Noam Chomsky 31. Pat Robertson (8 June 2023) 32. Fedez (Rapper) 33. Loni Anderson 34. George Soros 35. Patricia Routledge 36. Chuck Grassley 37. Dianne Feinstein (29 September 2023) 38. Freddy Quinn 39. Dennis Skinner 40. Linda Ronstadt Wannamaker (34/40): 1. Al Jaffee (10 April 2023) 2. Anthony Epstein 3. Iris Apfel 4. Phillipe de Gaulle 5. Ray Anthony 6. Rosemary Harris 7. Alan Greenspan 8. Dick van Dyke 9. Thomas Noguchi 10. Cleo Laine 11. Kate Keltie 12. Shannen Doherty 13. Johnny Ruffo (10 November 2023) 14. John Driskell Hopkins 15. Ed Slater 16. Piper Laurie (14 October 2023) 17. John Williams 18. Valentino (Fashion Designer) 19. Prunella Scales 20. Robert Duvall 21. Hal Linden 22. William Shatner 23. Raúl Castro 24. Alice Munro 25. Rita Moreno 26. John Astin 27. Alan Oppenheimer 28. Clint Eastwood 29. Warren Buffett 30. Bernie Ecclestone 31. Alejandro Jodorowsky 32. Frank Gehry 33. Betty Boothroyd (26 February 2023) 34. Desmond Morris 35. Tom Lehrer 36. Burt Bacharach (8 February 2023) 37. George Chakiris 38. Jorge Edwards (17 March 2023) 39. Arthur Fry 40. Don King Scoreboard: 8 February: Burt Bacharach (Ladyfiona, Wannamaker) 26 February: Betty Boothroyd (Wannamaker) 10 February: Hans Modrow (Prophet) 5 March: Mark Pilgrim (Ladyfiona) 6 March: Traute Lavrenz (Prophet) 17 March: Jorge Edwards (Wannamaker) 10 April: Al Jaffee (Wannamaker) 25 April: Parkash Singh Badal (Arghton) 8 June: Pat Robertson (Prophet) 27 July: Gary Glenn (Arghton) 26 August: Bob Barker (Ladyfiona) 1 September: Tempt One/Tony Quan (Arghton) 3 September: Ruschell Boone (Ladyfiona) 29 September: Dianne Feinstein (Prophet) 7 October: Phyllis Latour (Arghton) 14 October: Piper Laurie (Wannamaker) 23 October: Aira Samulin (Arghton) 2 November: Wei Wei (Arghton) 10 November: Johnny Ruffo (Ladyfiona, Wannamaker) 29 November: Henry Kissinger (Prophet) 5 December: Norman Lear (Prophet)

Deee-Lite winning would probably be my favourite moment in the whole KoS series. It's a crying shame it doesn't look all that likely.

December 15th at 126am 55 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas 50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles 49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year 47 Wizzard — I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday 46 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York 44 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 42 Jona Lewie — Stop The Cavalry 41 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells 39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree 38 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock 29 Wham! — Last Christmas +6 23 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again 13 Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters — Mele Kalikimaka -9 13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)  We already have Bing locked in up there.

Yikes! I fixed mine - hope @Toast sees this. Next poster please use this list: 55 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas 50 Wizzard — I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday 50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles 49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 46 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York 44 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 42 Jona Lewie — Stop The Cavalry 42 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year 41 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells 39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree 38 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock 29 Wham! — Last Christmas 27 Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters — Mele Kalikimaka 17 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again 13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 07 Queen — Thank God it’s Christmas

You chose 40 candidates with health issues or who are just extremly old and the one with the least deaths this year wins the game. There are special rules for your first 15 candidates to make it a little bit more fun which are listed below. The game starts on 1 February 2023, you can either send me your list in a PM or post it in this thread. Rules: - First off all, all candidates have to be known for other reasons than just their age or health issues, they must be at least 18 - The first five candidates must be centenarians (born 1923 or before) - The next five candidates must be at least 95 (born 1928 or before) but you can also chose another few centenarians if you like to or mix it - The next three candidates must have Stage IV Cancer or Cancer classified as terminal, a Glioblastoma of any grade also counts - The next two candidates must have ALS You can chose the other 25 candidates freely but one of the following requirements must be fullfilled by them: - All of the requirements I mentioned for the first 15 candidates can be also used for the next candidates that you can freely chose - They're at least 90 (born 1933 or before) - They had pancreatic cancer in the past of any stage or a brain tumor in the past three years which wasn't/isn't benign - They currently have Stage 3 cancer - They have Chronic Leukemia and are over 75 (born 1947 or before) - They have Parkinson and are over 85 (born 1937 or before), the age requirement is only 70 (born 1953 ot before) for people who have Parkinson for at least 10 years - They have dementia and are over 65 (born 1957 or before) - They have diabetes and are over 80 (born 1942 or before) - They had a stroke in the past three years if they're at least 70 (born 1953 or before) or in the last five years if they're at least 80 (born 1943 or before) - They had a heart attack in the past two years if they're at least 80 (born 1943 or before), or if they're at least 75 (born 1948 or before) but had two or more additional heart attacks in the past 15 years - They were hospilazed for pneumonia or other infections in the last 12 months and are at least 85 (born 1938 or before) - They're severly obese and are over 85 (born 1937 or before) - They have a terminal liver, lung, heart or kidney disease which can cause death - You can chose up to 5 people who don't fulfill one of the age or duration requirements but they still have to have one of the conditions that I mentioned above except obesity and diabetes where we go strictly by age limit Sorry for my bad english which isn't the yellow from the egg. If I a made grammar or spelling mistake you can feel free to correct me.

The more they complain the less they die.

Ferdinand Keller, German footballer who was capped once for his country and won the Cup Winners Cup with Hamburger SV has died aged 77. Obit (In German).

Might suggest you put two extra posts in. One for masterlist and one for scoreboard. That way it's on the first page so people (and you) have easy reference.