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Right Listers, listen up. It's just over 5 weeks to the end of the year, and I know you are all looking forward to collecting those big points next month with your current survivors. And of course I wish you and me all the best for that! But as you might be aware, December is the month when you have to prepare about 3 dozen lists for 2018, with your finger hovered over the send button at 23:59 on Hogmanay. So here is your fair warning: get those lists together for those who you think will survive most of, but not all, of 2018. You know you want to win a small donation to charidee at the end of the year. I'd also like to propose a rule change that no late entries be accepted. You have fair warning with this post, and I see no good reason why this pool is an exception to every single other pool. Now obviously I don't expect a flood of entries now...just have a good think and join in the fun. I'll issue timely reminders towards the end of the year while still trying to run this damn thing. I'd just like to say it's been a honour to host this and have enjoyed it tremendously, especially as most picks are famous enough for me to pick up on quite quickly. Cheers, YW.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Peter Flak has dyslexia.

High of 67F here in Dallas today. Perfect weather in which to burn your house down when your turkey fryer falls over.

Happy Thanksgiving folks! May you enjoy the company and the food.

Now @Joey Russ can relax and have a peaceful Thanksgiving. Enjoy the break.

Basically one week remains before people start to battle for choosing the right pick to their team. Anyways, enjoy when the time comes. Or not...

Ok, someone who doesn't have their own thread and should, not only on notability but also on health. John Hume, Nobel Prize winner, was a leading Northern Irish politician (leader of the SDLP) and a key figure in the Good Friday Peace Agreement. He is also seriously ill now, having been diagnosed with dementia a number of years ago. He was able to get out and about to funerals and the like as recently as 2 years ago, but the first public seeds of his health really going downhill appeared when his wife had to make a statement on the death of Martin McGuinness earlier this year instead. Now, he is unable to attend screenings of films in his own honour. One to watch intently, and with a good deal of name relevance for updates, I give you this thread for 2 reasons. 1. He is an exceptionally Deathlist worthy name, and one whose health should be watched. And politicos/journos give a steady update on him being "badly ill", "if only he could see X" etc etc. 2. I stumble across health updates on him at least six times a year, and lose track of where to place them because updates on the man are in about 10 different threads now. So he gets his own. ...I'm going too guess there's a Peter Falk joke in 5...

This was yesterday in Zimbabwe.

Can't tell you who should be put on, but I can tell you who should be taken off. Only 34 remain so the committee only has to take off 9. 1. Ian St. John 2. Gay Byrne 3. Desmond Tutu 4. Honor Blackman 5. Doug Ellis 6. Hosni Mubarak 7. Sandy Gall 8. Emperor Akihito 9. David Prowse. No need to remove Betty White, Bob Barker, QEII or anybody of the sort.

Christian Institute puts up the first obit for Blamires.

First year you hope to be thankful for an assassination...

I thought Brucie would live into triple figures as he was so fit and healthy....all is took was one thing to completely change that. For that reason, these oldies like Betty, Stan Lee etc who seem to be in good shape shouldn’t be dropped purely for the “just in case”.....

Larry Hagman never came back to Dallas after this day 5 years ago, aged 81.

I'm probably going to take little thought on this and come up with a team that will hopefully provide a decent score in the end by the end of break. Not expecting to win next time, of course...

Avakian is dead. NY Times obit. Was still talking to journalists last month so rapid decline or went in his sleep, I guess. PS Damn I was looking at an interview earlier that said he was doing well from October 2017, but I can't find it now, and it's been swamped from google by news of his death.

Actually, I think Jana's death has eclipsed Manson's a bit, especially here in the UK. Manson is more culturally relevant (death of the 60s dream and all that) but he didn't win the hearts of the tennis viewing public by crying on Centre Court, did he? I know it's not the real subject of the thread but I'm leaving it here as I haven't been this upset about the death of someone I didn't know (though saw Jana numerous times at Wimbledon and Eastbourne, plus she once read out my email on Radio 5 so it's fair to say we were like *that*) since Victoria Wood last year. Slightly more on topic, in between the usual Diana/Mother Theresa and Farrah Fawcett/Michael Jackson mentions I'm surprised no-one's offered up... Ian Richardson and Anna Nicole Smith.

Sorry for the very long wait. I'm currently on Thanksgiving break, so, why not make a brand new update. Our first hit from this long hit was Leo Baxendale. Aside from the one point everyone has on them, he also get the double benefit of both being unique in this pool and the DDP. With Gooseberry Crumble being the only person left who could get an additional point for guessing everyone in the correct order until they jumped back, GC gets a grand total of 8 points for his hit. That'll be the last time we'll see that bonus because Ian Brady was one slot above Baxendale. So what are people getting from Brady? Well, he gets one normal point and 3 drop 40 points, but he'll lose two points because he was imprisoned, so everyone who picked him will be getting 2 points, with RadGuy gaining an extra point for being on spot #4, making him joint 4th with msc at this time. Up next is another criminal that people hoped to be gone forever, Manuel Noriega. A unique for YoungWilz, he was also a world leader gaining him 2 more points, and with being in spot 18 with for a 25 member team, YoungWilz has 7, until we remember that imprisonment means 2 points gone. Still, 5 points is nothing to complain about at all. Now moving on to some people that we actually like, Peter Sallis will unsurprisingly give at least 4 points to a lot of people. Shout to RadGuy, msc and Rishcast for gaining an extra point for being on spot #35 (didn't expect 3 on the exact same spot). The title race between Death Impends and Captain Chorizo still hasn't changed at that point though... Now, lots of points will be getting points on behalf of Errol Christie, due to lots of joker's being given on him. For basics, he'll start with 5 points for those who chose him, the normal point, the 3 drop 40 points, and the point of being on DQSBP. Breaking down on how many points each individual gets, Sean will get 12 points for being on spot #4 and jokering him, RadGuy gets 6 for choosing him on spot 8 without jokering him, Chorizo gets 12 for being on spot #15 and jokering him, Pedro only gets 5 for not jokering him or having him on one of the bonus point spots, Msc gets 12 for being on spot 16 and jokering him, Unknown Man gets 12 for being on spot 10 and jokering him, Death Impends only get 10 for jokering him but not being on a spot that gives him an extra point to joker, Dead Cow gets 12 for jokering him and for being on spot #5, and RishCast gets 5 for neither jokering him or being on one of those lucky slots. The winners from Christie's death imo are Captain Chorizo and msc, Chorizo for breaking the joint 1st lock and being 2 points in the lead at this point, and msc for breaking the joint 3rd slot with RadGuy due to the fact that he didn't joker him... On that same day, Helen Fawkes turned out to be a unique for me (though I'm not one of the contenders at all). She will only be giving me four points, the normal point and the unique points on this dead pool. As expected, nothing changed on the contenders front with her demise... Now onto a world leader that more people like than Noriega, Helmut Kohl shall be giving people 3 points, one normal point, and 2 for being a world leader. No one got into one of the lucky spots, so everyone who picked him will be getting 3 points... Up next is Mao Kobayashi, who was both a Japanese journalist and actress. She is one of those hits where people will be getting only one point and nothing else unless they a. jokered them or b. got on one of the lucky spots. Only the Dead Cow got a lucky spot with her being on #2, so as expected, not much changed on the contender's front... A couple of people decided to plump for June Foray. She's also one of those who will get 1 point and nothing else unless one of those 2 conditions apply. Chorizo gets an extra point for being on spot number 32, which makes him extend his lead to 3 points ahead of Death Impends... That is until we account for the next hit (and a potentially decisive one), Ara Parseghian. Since he was a unique for Chorizo in this pool as well as a unique for the DDP, that means that Chorizo will gain 7 points for him, with a 10 point gap between Chorizo and Death Impends... Now for a hit more people expect to get, Glen Campbell. He will be getting 1 normal point and 3 drop 40 points for his share of the points. Unfortunately, research discovers that he had a 10 day stay in jail, and for that reason, I will be docking two points from him, making his worth only 2 points. Lots of people had him, but only msc (who had him at 15) and Bibliogryphon (who had him at 25) will be getting a third point for him. Still, that does give Death Impends a little ground for a comeback, cause Chorizo only had him as a sub... Up next is the legend known as Bruce Forsyth. Starting off with the basic point of one, he'll be getting another three for being on the drop 40. He will also be getting another batch for three points for one of the unrevealed bonuses, for Bruce as the first name. That makes him at a base of 7 points. RadGuy gets an 8th point for having him at spot #16, YoungWilz gets 8 for him being on spot #8, and Pedro also gets 8 for being on spot 20. No one gets anything for a pair though... Colin Meads was another one who starts with one point and a drop 40 package, but he also gets the one point for being part of DQSBP. The Unknown Man snags ten points for jokering him, but msc also gets an extra point for being on spot 30, and Death Impends gets another point for him being on spot 15, making him one point closer to CaptainChorizo... Our next hit is author JP Donleavy, who will start at 4 for a normal point and for being a unique in the DDP. Bibliogryphon will be receiving 10 points in the end due to his choice of jokering him at #2... Boxing legend Jake LaMotta is next on this very long update. Unfortunately, people are either losing a point or having their points the same since he went to prison for 6 months. The lucky winners for those who points remain the same are Pedro (who's on spot #30) and The Dead Cow (who's also on spot #30). Everyone else who had LaMotta lost a point... Now a two part soap opera double. Liz Dawn is one of those people who only gains one point. No one had her on a lucky spot, so therefor, everyone who picked her only gets one point... The other person who is worth more points is Tony Booth, who will be getting a normal point and 3 drop 40 points to begin with. RadGuy gets 10 for jokering him and having him on spot #2, Pedro also gets ten for jokering him and having him on spot #4, msc gets 5 for having him at #10, and Biblio also gets five for having him at 5... Hugh Hefner demise means a stiff point for anyone who picked him. RadGuy gets a second stiff point for having him at 20. Nothing else changes at this point... Gord Downie is another one who will receive 5 points to start, the basic point, the package of drop 40 points, and a DQSBP point. The following points will be awarded: Sean will recieve 12 for jokering him at #5, RadGuy receives ten for merely jokering him this time, Captain Chorizo will get ten for jokering him, Pedro will get 5 for just having him as well as msc, Unknown Man will receive 10 for jokering him, Death Impends will get 12 for jokering him and having him at spot #35, The Dead Cow will recieve 12 for having him at #1 and jokering him, and RishCast will get 6 for having him at spot #10... Daisy Berkowitz is the next person up in order to receive a basic point and nothing else. The only thing significant with him is that CaptainChorizo will be expanding his lead by one more point... Our last person for this update is legendary rock and roller Fats Domino. He's only worth one basic point, but Pedro gains another point for him being on spot #15, and Death Impends have him at #25, reducing the deficit between him and CaptainChorizo to 4 points... Here is the very long awaited new leaderboard! 1st - Captain Chorizo - 106 points 2nd - Death Impends - 102 points 3rd - RadGuy - 96 points 4th - msc - 93 points 5th - Dead Cow - 89 points 6th - Unknown Man - 81 points 7th - Pedro67 - 78 points 8th - Shaun of the Dead - 76 points 9th - Bibliogryphon - 74 points 10th - RishCast - 51 points 11th - YoungWilz - 37 points 12th - Gooseberry Crumble - 31 points 13th - joeyruss - 30 point 14th - Cat O'Falk - minus 1 point Let me know if I had missed someone up to the current DDP update (those who haven't been on an update won't have their scores updated yet). Well, it's been a long time coming now, ain't it...

Nearly Christmas innit? ♬♪ A Partridge in a Mor-tree ♫

Doo doo do do doo!

Ahmed I, Emperor of the Ottoman Empire, died this day a nice round 400 years ago (27). He is notable for finally doing away with the insane Ottoman tradition of royal fratricide upon gaining the throne. Unlike his father, who had 19 of his brothers killed, Ahmed left his lone and much younger brother alone. Having left no issue, apparently, it would be his younger brother's three boys who would ascend to the throne in years to come.

Michael Hutchence would not have any new sensation after this day 20 years ago, aged 37.

Fuck your luck!

Had to have my cat euthanised today. Gutted. He always jumped up on my shoulders when I'd come in from work and I taught him to high five me. I'm gonna miss that moggie.