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There's a great story from the guy who wrote the definitive Golden Girls biography about when he went to interview Bea Arthur, and she was massively ornery with him because the chat meant she couldn't watch Judge Judy that day. She kept muttering under her breath "I'm missing Judge Judy for this?"

To me Mull Of Kintyre and ABBA are something between miley cyrus in the mtv music awards 2013 and Chinese water torture – no wait, I choose the torture by water

The rest of the forum is quite quiet. Theoldlady is merely sparking conversation - surely something we should welcome. Quit being so grumpy.

With the news announced earlier that Hollywood legend Jane Fonda is recovering from cancer surgery on her lip and the fact she turned 80 last year. I felt the time was right to give Jane her own thread on this forum. Whilst this particular health issue at this time seems to be something the doctors are likely to keep on top of.She is now definitely someone to keep an eye on.

I think she looks fantastic for 80, in my opinion, she'll live to be 90 at least.

Paul Gascoigne. I have Jill as very likely...

50 years of artistic decline can't end well – perhaps there's some truth in that "Paul is dead" rumour

The Guardian tend to commission and have good names to write their obits on call. Alas when they're not interested... I know at least one Jane Baker obit was offered (not by me) to several of the papers, but got turned down.

Got curious tonight, so I looked up the roster of the 1972 Soviet basketball team that controversially won the gold medal over the USA in Munich. I found out that only 4 of the 12 players on that team are still alive. Anatoli Polivoda (b. May 29, 1947, age 70) Modestas Paulauskas (b. Mar. 19, 1945, age 72) Ivan Edeshko (b. Mar. 25, 1945, age 72) Alzhan Zharmukhamedov (b. Oct. 2, 1944, age 73) Coincidentally, none of the four remaining players are native Russians either - they're Ukranian, Lithuanian, Belarusian, and Kazakh, respectively. Ivan Dvorny, who died in 2015, was the last surviving Russian member of the team.

Bea Arthur I always got the impression from her performances and interviews that she was feisty outspoken and difficult to get on with much like Elaine Stritch and Jerry Lewis.I agree Betty appears too nice to be true.I think the whole aww bless her appeal she has now is because of her age. Even the nastiest old bitches tend to be seen as sweet and innocent when very old.She once said she liked animals better than people which is a hint she isn't as personable as she comes across.Most likely an act but one that has made her last in the business for nearly 80 years.

You almost did.......

Sad news. Saw The Cranberries many many times very early on (they were a bit like Radiohead in that they always seemed to be the support/on the same bill as other bands I liked) as well as in their own right numerous times; they were always excellent live. Went off them from Zombie onwards when Dolores developed her vocal style to be - to these ears anyway - as irritating as possible but the first album is still stunning. She's admittedly had her problems in the past but would anyone have thought she'd go before Sinead?

Only rthat they were dangerously fat.Much like James Avery.

Should have been on my team Since twenty sixteen..... Aye, for a while a more bammy lass than Sinaid is.

Meyer Lansky went swimming with the fishes on this day 35 years ago, aged 80.

Final Sears Canada stores have closed their doors.

ALS suffering former Saints player Steve Gleason tweeted this gem last night, after the Vikings beat his former team with a game-winning touchdown on the final play.

That's what I like about the DDP; a concerted exercise in media studies, oncology, physiology, statistics and moral philosophy all rolled into one.

Another unique in Spanky Manikan moves another team onto the leaderboard from the "bottom".....

1. John Tyler was 63 when his son Lyon was born (1853). 2. Lyon was 71 when Lyon Jr. was born (1924), and 75 when Harrison was born (1928). 3. Both sons are still alive.

Oh come on, surely we are allowed one main team and one theme team?

I can think of another reason why a man might want his hard drive destroyed after death....

My mind's telling me no....