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Uncredited Passenger Roy Everson appears to have died off radar: https://www.facebook.com/groups/924369711362969/posts/1169054006894537/ A notable extra, he played a reporter in A Hard Day's Night, a shop salesman in Crooks Anonymous and a parent in Carry On Teacher. Also a stand in for David Prowse in the Star Wars thing and for Sean Connery in at least three movies. Reportedly 95.

They want privacy, I wish TIME would stop harassing them!

Although the wrestling QO thing is still relatively new - Nick Bockwinkel (a HOFer, fyi) died in 2015 without a single QO, which scared me off Blackjack Mulligan and Smith Hart, both of whom got obits with nae bother. Found out this week that Marc Wilkinson is apparently still with us. Not a name that would jump out at most but I like to think going "oh the Blue Remembered Hills/If... composer" immediately marks him as notable, if not household! Whereas if a week goes by without you or Willz or Toast or drol or Spade or any number of others interested in stuff outside my sphere bring up someone clearly notable but previously unknown to me, then that's a wasted DL week imo. Or even within my sphere of interest, after all, nobody knows every actor or writer in the world.

I think there is a real difference between FFBI and people you (generic being) haven't heard of. There are a small number of us on here who know more than is considered reasonable about a certain UK SF show and we get caught out when people like David Fisher, Philip Latham & Jane Baker do not get QOs. I know nothing about baseball or wrestling so you are unlikely to see those types of names on my lists but they clearly have fame credentials which are outside my frame of reference

British radio astronomer and 1974 co-laureate in Physics, Antony Hewish (wiki), died on 13th September, aged 97. Announcement from Cambridge Uni. A unique pick in the DDP. QO assured.

I, too, didn't love all of his standup work. But he was one of the better talk show guests you could ever want to watch, just naturally funny in that setting. Other comics revered him as one of the true greats, and he was certainly unique.

That is stone cold from His Holiness

https://www.reuters.com/article/france-security-idAFL8N2QH6AU IS-GS (Islamic State in the Greater Sahara, a part of ISIS) founder-leader Adnan Abu Walid al-Sahraoui has been killed by french forces. IS-GS was active in Burkina Faso and neighbouring countries. It split from Al-Mourabitoun that was lead by Mokhtar Belmokhtar, often called "The One-Eyed" and "The Uncatchable" Al-Mourabitoun merged into Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal Muslimin in 2017. The leader of "JNIM" is Iyad Ag Ghaly, around 66 years old.

Too young and it’s sad he’s gone, but I didn’t find his stand up particularly funny. His work (meaning his delivery of other writers’ work) on SNL was brilliant though. SC

He couldn't bear the thought of being barred from playing the majority of board games:

A thread it gives me no pleasure to start for one of my favourite actresses. Brilliant DL worthy actress in poor health earns her own thread, in my book. Jean Marsh is the one actress in the big six (Dench, Smith, Atkins, Marsh, Philips, Syms who were all born within 18 months of each other and dominated British TV and stage through the 60s and 70s) not to have a Damehood, allegedly at her own choice in the past. You might recognise her from Frenzy, or Upstairs Downstairs (which she also co-created), or Return to Oz, or 3 different Doctor Who appearances, or The Eagle Has Landed or countless other films and TV shows in the last 60 years. Alas, Jean Marsh is no longer in good health. She suffered a severe stroke in 2011 (which would have killed most people, despite her downplaying it in that interview linked) but managed to recover and return to acting. A second period of ill health in 2014 forced her retirement from acting. Last year I heard she was unable to appear in a documentary due to her failing health (and had suffered a big heart attack too), which I mentioned on the forum. (The latter bit is also telling as Jean Marsh was on record several times as loving fan mail - especially the saucy ones - and replying to as much of it as possible over the decades. This stopped around five years ago.) Unfortunately looking into it, she appears to have declined further since then. According to the head of the International Wizard of Oz fan club (see Return to Oz above) she is now in such frail health that even simple email questions dictated by an agent (which is a route folk regularly get interviews with very old actors!) isn't possible. This backs up what I've heard from several other good sources about Marsh being in dire health now, so as she's famous enough and sick enough for the DL front page, here is her thread. It's an Eagle Has Landed cast 2 for 1 with Donald's yesterday, although tbh it was that thread that inspired me to check up who she was doing.

Well, they've gone 15 years without it now - a lack of something normally kills demand with time.* Also, I feel like (and this is a gut feeling, so nowt to prove it) that the old chart shows influenced the charts by what they chose to show, and their presenters shilling, so the charts became more varied than they'd otherwise be. The number of times John Peel would go "this is one you'll all love" was almost like watching The Demon Headmaster in action! Whereas without that, people stick to what they know, in limited spheres of interest? tbh it's not the most annoyed I've been with the BBC over something like this (that'll be their axing of non-cool demographic stuff in 2009-2010 under Jay Hunt, like seemingly nearly anything on weekend TV that scored highly with OAPs) but it remains one of those holes in the schedule. *Yes, I know, Doctor Who, but that was an outlier.

Isn't she the first member of Legs & Co. to die (that we know of)? I know a few of Pan's People have passed.

Patti Hammond, a dancer with Legs & Co from Top Of The Pops, has died, aged 71:

I think, some higher standard of fame should be used. Otherwise, well, there's already the Death By Numbers.

So, after he has surgery his last your will be mainly hip-op, then

Apparently there was an out-of-court settlement yesterday regarding the assault allegations.

Crazy to think we’re on the cusp of the longest drought since the early years. Still hopeful we’ll get to 11 or 12 but equally hope the record goes in the next day or so

Interesting that AP have decided to do a timeline on Dennis Hastert now: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-9995545/Timeline-events-Dennis-Hastert-s-life-career.html

I think it turns on whether the list is to be directly comparable to the DL, which tends to be UK centric. In which case one would need to ask oneself "Would the committee be likely to consider this person?"

Unless the QOs are different here, she got one if the ITV one posted doesn't count, there's always the Express: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1490836/Covid-deaths-oldest-woman-Wales-TikTok-gran-Monmouth

I never previously found a QO, but there's one now anyway for Carolyn Shoemaker: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/carolyn-shoemaker-obituary-8dqh3kctj I'm sure Death Impends will be pleased.

I thought it's a fair point to make, that ShadowLists might produce names that wouldn't appear on the real deathlist. But the person complaining about two world leaders and a very infamous religious leader I thought I would ignore. I get your idea. The committee is UK-centric while the world is a pretty big place. I'm open to suggestions, I quite liked the idea of borderline names being voted on if necessary. I'm on the fence from most of what you say. I just don't think the concept of a ShadowList should be so strict, nor did I particularly want to a big crowdsource-esque way to gather votes. For my own sanity I'll probably step back and let criticism of this thread or individual names go without directly responding to them, but I am open to ideas. This website has lots of polarising people who all hold opinions and I'm open to listening to some of them. My approach to this is very laid back right now.

And this is why the Shadow List hasn’t ever been a competition. You get lists like this…what you think would be the reaction if fucking Mengistu Haile Mariam was on the DL? Or Sitiveni Rabuka? Or some random cunting Rabbi?

Canadian-American character actress Frances Bay died on this day 10 years ago, aged 92.