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We're Short of a Bob or Two Bobby Charlton has died at the age of 86, becoming the Inverse Dead Pool's second consecutive Bob lost to dementia. Despite living in the shadow of his brother, over-60s walking-football champion Tommy Charlton, Bobby was an accomplished football player in his own right. A member of the winning 1966 England World Cup squad, he also famously survived the Munich air disaster – at least for the initial 65 years before he finally succumbed to his injuries. The pinnacle of his career came in 1983, when he became director of my hometown team, Wigan Athletic – a cruel oxymoron, given the quantities of pie we eat. In later life, he went from Ballon d'Or to Death's d'Or. Diagnosed with dementia at an unspecified point before 2020 – he couldn't remember when – he lived out his final years in Ribsmasher Windowsills Care Home, a choice that would be his tragic undoing. Bobby suffered complications from a fall, after Lionel Blair, Jim Bowen, and Keith Chegwin strapped him into a pillory and pulled his trousers down. He is survived by his wife, Norma Ball – and now, indeed, there is no more ball. 22 of you picked him – enough to fill a football pitch. I think it's all over for @msc, found dribbling his way back to last place with 13 points for a total of 79. @Alcalina continues his catastrophic streak with another 18 points – still in 1st place with 0 points just 4 leaderboard updates ago, he's now 47th with 64. Alcalina's aliterative partner @Annami suffers similar misfortune – with 20 points on Bobby, she's out of the top 5, and indeed the top 22. Also off the winning team is @Nick – a 9-point own goal takes him to a total of 13, putting him in 13th (note that we're now in the phase of the game where half the points match the rankings). On the bright side, those two players help @Death Impends rise from 8th to 7th despite a 4-point penalty, and @Bibliogryphon is right about 5 points not doing him much harm – he goes from 34th to 31st. Good news also for @Grimgrass, whose grass expertise no doubt helped on the pitch – their Bobby-free team slides into the top 5. But the top 4 – including the three nil-pointers – remain unfouled. Could these be the first three players in this pool's history to see out a full year without a hit? GAINED TOTAL = 1. LizLemon 0 = 1. tracy 0 = 1. Book 0 = 4. Spade_Cooley 1 ▲ 5. Grimgrass 4 ▲ 6. gcreptile 7 ▲ 7. Death Impends +4 9 ▲ 7. Summer in Transylvania 9 ▲ 9. Joey Russ 10 ▲ 10. ThereWillBeDeaths7 11 ▲ 11. diego 12 ▲ 11. Perhaps 12 ▼ 13. Nick +9 13 ▲ 13. machotrouts 13 ▲ 13. The Unknown Man 13 ▲ 13. Grim Up North 13 ▲ 17. An Fear Beag 14 ▲ 18. MortalCaso 15 ▼ 19. Sean +5 18 ▼ 19. deadsox +5 18 ▼ 21. CaptainChorizo +7 19 ▲ 21. Great Uncle Bulgaria 19 ▲ 23. Torva Messor +1 22 ▼ 24. Annami +20 23 ▲ 24. wannamaker 23 ▲ 24. TQR 23 ▼ 27. Captain Hemlock +6 24 ▼ 27. BuffaloPhil +3 24 ▼ 29. marinade +3 25 ▲ 30. Pedro67 +3 27 ▼ 31. Newjack +11 31 ▲ 31. Bibliogryphon +5 31 ▲ 33. Toast 32 ▲ 34. TheSpinosaurus 35 ▼ 35. Hell +12 36 ▲ 35. The Old Crem 36 ▼ 37. nantonian2013 +10 37 ▲ 37. En Passant 37 ▼ 39. Funeralopolis +13 38 ▲ 39. CalebH 38 ▼ 41. MariNisia +7 42 ▲ 42. BabyBlue 45 = 43. Sir Creep +2 47 ▼ 44. chilean way +5 48 ▲ 45. YoungWillz 50 = 46. Wormfarmer +14 61 ▼ 47. Alcalina +18 64 = 48. machotrouts' mum 66 ▲ 49. theoldlady 71 ▼ 50. msc +13 79

You’re such an idiot it’s unreal. There are WWII vets born 1928, 1929, 1930. They were 15–17 when they served. There will be people alive who are in their 110s in the 2040s who served. Guaranteed.

6/Nov/2023 52 Natalie Imbruglia — Torn 50 Underworld — Born Slippy 34 Mark Snow — The X-Files 34 Sash! ft. Rodriguez — Ecuador 33 Robert Miles — Children 32 Blur — Song 2 31 The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony 31 The Cardigans — Lovefool 27 Kula Shaker — Hush +4 26 Manic Street Preachers — A Design For Life 25 Sash! — Encore Une Fois 25 The Bluetones — Slight Return 25 Gala — Freed From Desire 25 Chumbawamba — Tubthumping 23 George Michael — Spinning The Wheel 22 Dario G — Sunchyme 22 Supergrass — Richard III 17 Warren G ft. Adina Howard — What's Love Got To Do With It 17 Toni Braxton — Un-Break My Heart 15 George Michael — Star People '97 14 No Mercy — Where Do You Go 14 Kula Shaker — Hey Dude 00 Los Del Río — Macare...nah -6

Haven't a clue tbh - though you do get these situations whereby a league club from the bottom tiers do bring the reserves in for cup games. Carlisle crashed out of the FA Cup on Saturday, having stiffed out of the League Cup in the first round and lost our two EFL Trophy games so far. If we lose to Harrogate next week we'll have lost every cup game. Priority is survival in League One. The one thing we did on Saturday for the first time in a cup game this year was score (one), shame about the three we let in!

QO for Oleg Protopopov https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/olympic-figure-skater-oleg-protopopov-203203607.html

I don't like the shouty man. I prefer this one.

6th November 52 Natalie Imbruglia — Torn 50 Underworld — Born Slippy +4 34 Mark Snow — The X-Files 34 Sash! ft. Rodriguez — Ecuador 33 Robert Miles — Children 32 Blur — Song 2 31 The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony 31 The Cardigans — Lovefool 26 Manic Street Preachers — A Design For Life 25 Sash! — Encore Une Fois 25 The Bluetones — Slight Return 25 Gala — Freed From Desire 25 Chumbawamba — Tubthumping 23 George Michael — Spinning The Wheel 23 Kula Shaker — Hush 22 Dario G — Sunchyme 22 Supergrass — Richard III 17 Warren G ft. Adina Howard — What's Love Got To Do With It 17 Toni Braxton — Un-Break My Heart 15 George Michael — Star People '97 14 No Mercy — Where Do You Go 14 Kula Shaker — Hey Dude  6 Los Del Río — Cackarena -6

Well the last WW1 Veteran died in 2011/12 (depending on who you count), 93/94 years after the war ended so things will only be reaching their end by 2040.

Rachel Stevens is a predator and a nonce. Sorry you had to hear it here first.

Where the fuck has 2022 2023 gone to? Apparently it's the 1st November 5th November already, so time to set in motion another Crowdsourced Deathlist. The 2022 3 version looks set to finish ahead level with the official Deathlist (though they lacked the help of Gary Burgess actually all the 2023 TCD picks were vaguely sensible). Hey, no one is ever going to know that was copy and pasted from last years thread. Job done. 2023's list saw a number of familiar faces exit, pursued by a bear, from George Alagiah to Rolf Harris, Topol to the Unabomber. So let's see how the class of 2024 do. Will the 2024 edition be able to top our current list? We will see, but for the time being let's go over the rules, shall we? THE RULES Rules 1. Please send a list of celebrities you wish to vote for to msc, during the time period of 5th November to the 31st December 2023. The list must have a minimum of 12 names on it, and a maximum of 50. Yes, this means we are open now, as I'll just forget to officially open it otherwise. This has happened on multiple occasions... Please send them by either PM or via Shadow List thread, not by email, semaphore, Morse code, Deathlist live chat, animated corpses, text messages, or any other means of communication you can think of. And you may only submit via 1 of those two methods above, NOT BOTH METHODS! 2. Your 1st choice will gain 50 points, 2nd 49, etc etc to 50th which will gain 1 point. This is true even if you only send in 12 names, or 13 names, or 49 names. 3. When the deadline passes, all of the points that an individual celebrity gain will be added together, and the top fifty celebrities with the most points overall will go on the Utterly Unofficial Forum List. 4. Feel free to add substitutes at the bottom of the list, which will only be counted if one of your fifty die before January 1st 2024. If for example your number one pick is such a smart one they die before January 1st, then I will give 50 points to your 2nd pick, and so on until 1 point is given to the first substitute. 4b) Anyone who wishes to avoid a Pope Benny the Fuckwit Meltdown and just says "oh put my subs in at the number of the person who died" gets 10 post likes from diego. 5. Do try to make the picks as "Deathlisty" as possible. More Buffy Sainte-Marie, less Chickadee, if you know what I mean. Someone likely to score an obit with one of the major English language news outlets. 6. The deadline for sending in entries is 31st December 2023 at 9 pm GMT. That's 4pm New York Time (31st December) and 8am (1st Jan) Melbourne time to help out non-Brits. This earlier deadline is so there's enough time to complete the list before the new year as well as enjoying some extra time off as well. I am keeping Joey's earlier cut off time for simplicity because did you see what that bloody ex-Pope did? Chaos everywhere. 7. This is essentially a forum game without a winner. It does however put the long held notion by some that the combined minds of the forum know better than the Committee to the test. 8. Who picked whom will remain anonymous. Unless the person announces it of course. 9. The paranoid probably shouldn't send in their DDP unique hopefuls. Whilst I do not intend to steal them away, it would make no sense: if the person then showed up on the list, their chances of being unique would be very slim indeed! 9b. If you do wish to send your DDP unique hopefuls, I won't complain! 10. To keep to the Deathlist spirit, only the top 25 ranked celebrities from the current list of Crowdsourced Deathlist 2023 survivors will be used: Jimmy Carter, Henry Kissinger, Joanne Woodward, Glynis Johns, Roberta Flack, James Whale, Frank Field, Rosalynn Carter, Jonnie Irwin, Linda Nolan, Eva Marie Saint, June Spencer, Dick van Dyke, Ruth Buzzi, Nigel Starmer Smith, Andy Taylor, Mel Brooks, Yoko Ono, Sandra Day O'Connor, Jean Marie le Pen, Rob Burrow, Shannen Doherty, Norman Tebbit, Jacques Delors, David Attenborough, Noam Chomsky, Marianne Faithfull, Sonny Rollins, Stanley Baxter, Randy Jackson, Norman Lear, James Earl Jones, Francoise Hardy, James Watson, Vera Miles, the Duke of Kent and David Graham. As usual, this is something for me to worry about, not you. ie: 10a) Our actual collated list will stick to the "25 from the previous year" rule. 10b) As a result, if our top fifty, after all votes have been counted, has more than twenty-five of the 2023 survivors (named for ease in Rule 10), then the lowest ranked excess survivors will be axed from the list in favour of The Fifty-First ranked celebrity and so on... 10c) Since we don't know if that'll be an issue until I actually do the counting, voters don't need to worry about limiting their personal lists to 25 survivors. It'd be nice if they did, but that's life. 11) Please pick living people. Folk do die before 1st January, but there were a few cases of people dead for a number of years chosen last time. Please do not pick animals, or ISIS prisoners, or kids, or any of the usual no go areas. 12) The Deathray Rule. If Deathers is reading this, he is more than welcome to find some way to get his usual 50 points for that bloody weatherman in! If that bloody weatherman doesn't get his formerly traditional 50 from a mystery person (ie, not you, TQR) then this rule will be retired in 12 months time. Anyhow, enjoy. Or not. Will Esther still be telling us That's Life in 2024?

6/11/2023 51 Natalie Imbruglia — Torn +4 47 Underworld — Born Slippy 34 Sash! ft. Rodriguez — Ecuador 33 The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony 33 The Cardigans — Lovefool 33 Robert Miles — Children 32 Blur — Song 2 32 Mark Snow — The X-Files 30 Chumbawamba — Tubthumping 27 Kula Shaker — Hush 27 Manic Street Preachers — A Design For Life 26 The Bluetones — Slight Return 25 Sash! — Encore Une Fois 25 Gala — Freed From Desire 23 George Michael — Spinning The Wheel 22 Dario G — Sunchyme 22 Supergrass — Richard III 17 Warren G ft. Adina Howard — What's Love Got To Do With It 17 Toni Braxton — Un-Break My Heart 15 George Michael — Star People '97 08 No Mercy — Where Do You Go 08 Kula Shaker — Hey Dude -6

Did you know the vocalist on "Encore Une Fois" is German? I love the confusion of it all. Truly the 90s equivalent of Boney M.

Dulcie Fawcett was the oldest known person born in Australia,she was born on 30 Jan 1913 in Balaklava, South Australia and died on 2 Nov 2023 in Geraldton,her successor is Alfreda Screaigh born on 28 July 1913 in York, Western Australia,and lives in Mandurah FAWCETT Dulcie - Brasil | Obituários | Anúncios do Ocidente (westannouncements.com.au)

Mon 6 Nov 52 Natalie Imbruglia — Torn 46 Underworld — Born Slippy +4 38 Blur — Song 2 33 Robert Miles — Children 31 The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony 31 The Cardigans — Lovefool 30 Sash! ft. Rodriguez — Ecuador 30 Mark Snow — The X-Files 26 Manic Street Preachers — A Design For Life 25 Sash! — Encore Une Fois 25 The Bluetones — Slight Return 25 Gala — Freed From Desire 25 Chumbawamba — Tubthumping -6 23 George Michael — Spinning The Wheel 23 Toni Braxton — Un-Break My Heart 23 Kula Shaker — Hush 22 Dario G — Sunchyme 22 Supergrass — Richard III 17 Warren G ft. Adina Howard — What's Love Got To Do With It 15 George Michael — Star People '97 14 No Mercy — Where Do You Go 14 Kula Shaker — Hey Dude  12 Los Del Río — Macarena Now it has been attacked, Born Slippy will be getting my points for the rest of the game. Shame, really; there are so many other songs that deserve points too.

05/11/2023 52 Natalie Imbruglia — Torn 42 Underworld — Born Slippy 38 Blur — Song 2 31 Chumbawamba — Tubthumping 31 The Verve — Bitter Sweet Symphony 31 The Cardigans — Lovefool 30 Sash! ft. Rodriguez — Ecuador 30 Mark Snow — The X-Files 29 Robert Miles — Children 28 Kula Shaker — Hush 26 Manic Street Preachers — A Design For Life 25 Sash! — Encore Une Fois 25 The Bluetones — Slight Return 25 Gala — Freed From Desire +2 23 George Michael — Spinning The Wheel 23 Toni Braxton — Un-Break My Heart 22 Dario G — Sunchyme 22 Supergrass — Richard III +2 17 Warren G ft. Adina Howard — What's Love Got To Do With It 15 George Michael — Star People '97 14 No Mercy — Where Do You Go 14 Kula Shaker — Hey Dude  12 Los Del Río — Macarena 01 Sash! ft. La Trec — Stay -6

Latvian basketball player Cezars Ozers, the last surviving member of the USSR team that won silver at the 1960 Games, has died aged 86.

Crowdsource Form Guide #4 Violeta Chamorro The former Nicaraguan President is now 94 years old and has long suffered from brain tumors, advanced dementia and has for the last year or two been in 24/7 care in a "delicate but stable" state. Might be a time for her to make a return on the Crowdsourced Deathlist (if the voters of the Deathlist forums so decide).

This'll be the list of the lost, then - we welcome an early returnee who expected a few more weeks in India to manage it! 31 Dec: Telma Regina Bley - af - 366 pts 31 Dec: Carl Yarborough - ll - 366 3 Jan: Derek Draper – af, ar, ba*, bk, cc, cl*, db, di, dr, dx, gr, hl, im, jk, ll, mn, mp, ms, rg, sk, sn, st, tc, th, ti, to, tt, tu, wm - 363 4 Jan: Glynis Johns – bg, cl, ll, ti - 362 5 Jan: Mario Zagallo – f6, n3, sk, yb - 361 7 Jan: Franz Beckenbaur – im, t7 - 359 7 Jan: Bruce Wilkoff - gr - 359 8 Jan: Erwin Schild – ar - 358 9 Jan: Ustad Rashid Khan – af, ba, dr, gr, ms, sk, wm* - 357 10 Jan: Roy Battersby – bb, ms, rg, wm - 356 11 Jan: Yury Solomin – ar, cc, dr - 355 11 Jan: Dave Marsh - sk - 355 13 Jan: Joyce Randolph - di 353 14 Jan: Brian Barczyk – ba, bb - 352 23 Jan: Jason Smith – af, ba, bk, dg, dr, mp, ms, rg, sk, th*, wm - 343 25 Jan: Roger Donlon - ti - 341 27 Jan*: Stuart Gray – bk, ed - 339 * = Provisional date of death 27 Jan: Carl Pierson - ba - 339 And, let's have a look at the old scoreboard! Banana - 2116 Sideik - 1778 Wannamaker - 1775 An Fear Beag - 1428 msc - 1418 Drol - 1417 LizLemon - 1087 CalebH - 1088 gcreptile - 1079 Arghton - 1076 The Immortal - 1065 RadGuy - 1061 Thatcher - 1047 Book - 1044 Imelda - 722 Captain Chorizo - 718 DeathImpends - 716 BabyBlue - 708 Maryportfuncity - 705 DeathBecomesThem - 363 Deadsox - 363 Hell - 363 John Key - 363 MariNisia - 363 Sean - 363 Summer in Translyvania - 363 The Old Crem - 363 Theoldlady - 363 Toast - 363 The Unknown Man - 363 Bibliogryphon - 362 Famous6Eva - 361 Nantonian2013 - 361 Yorkshire Banker - 361 ThereWillBeDeaths7 - 359 Diego - 342 Etushispushingupdaisies - 339

Being extremely bored, I decided to tally up all the votes on each of the Unknown Man's 14 prediction polls for the remaining 27 names on the deathlist. The results from the 14th poll are current as of approximately 45 minutes ago. For the tied votes, I have listed the name with the most recent votes first. 01. Jimmy Carter 506 02. Joanne Woodward 119 03. Nigel Starmer-Smith 88 04. Henry Kissinger 86 05. Jean-Marie Le Pen 77 06. Shane MacGowan 59 07. Linda Nolan 49 08. Sandy Gall 47 09. Yoko Ono 38 09. Sonny Rollins 38 11. Norman Lear 35 11. Ethel Kennedy 35 11. Dennis Skinner 35 14. Rosalynn Carter 34 15. Jacques Delors 33 16. Bob Newhart 32 17. Joss Ackland 31 17. Norman Tebbit 31 19. Imelda Marcos 28 20. Cleo Laine 26 21. Stanley Baxter 24 22. Dick Van Dyke 23 23. Alan Greenspan 22 24. Pete Murray 20 24. Dick Cheney 20 26. Prunella Scales 13 26. Willie Nelson 13 26. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei 13 26. Desmond Morris 13 30. Hal Linden 12 31. Robert Wagner 11 32. Mel Brooks 10 32. Andy Taylor 10 34. Marianne Faithfull 9 34. Robert Duvall 9 36. Angie Dickinson 8 37. Alan Alda 7 Looking at this list, the one thing that strikes me is how few votes Mel Brooks received. Even though he is not in the top 25, he has to be a shoo-in for next year's list considering his age and condition.

I think for Next Years DDP any deaths on the 29th February should get a bonus or even double points.

Oscar Aguilera of 1958 Paraguay is said to have died at the age of 44 years old.

He will now make his money from bank heists.

Kane Tanaka is one year older than Nabi Tajima (4th oldest validated person ever)

And it's goodnight from him!