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I really doubt Ronnie Wood....

In short, he is well known, but to a rather younger generation than nearly everyone on this forum and the Cmme!

Metro obit Edit: and Daily Mail, Express, BBC, Guardian...

Can an Admin please change the title to something proper like Who Will Be THE NEXT RS To Die?.....it ignores Brian Jones, at the very least. ‘Guest Tom Green’ was an idiot when he created the thread. That’s why guests should never ever be allowed to create a thread. Nor anyone in their first 90 days of membership.

I too would love to meet both Olivia de Havilland and Dick van Dyke. It would be interesting to hear about the old Hollywood as well as their thoughts on the current state of the film Industry.

#30, in part to thank him for sending me a signed photo last year in response to my fan mail.

And I like to share my thoughts on what I think on other people's team, just for fun. I already mentioned that I really like gcreptile's team; very risky, but may turn out to be very rewarding. And even with him being unlucky with having Monson and Redstone join his main team after Dudley's and Willow's demise, I still think he could win. People have won in the past with having old people who didn't make the drop 40 as recently as last year, so not all is lost. I think one of the other riskiest teams this year is DevonDeathTrip. He went for a lot of oldsters with minimal 40 chances (Blanco, Lorimer) and even went with a lot of names that he has brought up on the forum himself (Clegg, Remigino, Goldberg). Along with his two potential uniques, I think this might have DevonDeathTrip go back to his glory days. Death Impends, while never in doubt to be a strong team, looks strong and might be a 20/20 team this year. While I honestly have no idea who Laura Barry is even though I tried looking her up after you announced your team, I absolutely love your Cynthia Heimel pick. Very much a name that goes for one of my interests (feminism), and honestly would have made a spot in my B Team if I had known about her. I did know about David Shutts, but he was one of those names that I looked at but completely ignored afterwards, so no doubt that he'll score points for you now... RadGuy, you say you might not make the top 20, but I say that's a strong team right there imo. Some interesting punts, and once again, has a lot of old people with minimal drop 40 chances like DevonDeathTrip with no FFBI types. Honestly, I like that some of the contenders are completely moving away from FFBI in general. Speaking of that, Toast has always been one of those people who avoids FFBI, and I think she has a strong team to prove that you don't actually need FFBI to do very well in the DDP. Some strong picks on her team (honestly, why didn't the committee plump for Willie Nelson), and I love to see a team with mainly well known celebrities in the top ten. Grim Up North looks like on paper to be this years rookie of the year. Of course, I haven't seen many other rookie teams, but he does a decent enough job with other dead pools that I think he'll be fine here. And finally, the Dead Cow. This year is actually going to be quite interesting between you and me, especially since we share 14/20 picks (it was 13 but Willow unfortunately died before the starting, but she may not receive a QO by the looks of it anymore). So it's a game between Youngs/Tapie/Stiles/Willesee/Falkholt/Toothill vs Forster/Fraser/Jowell/Nolan/Smith/Stefansson. Really going to be a tight game between us, though I think you have the better team especially with Youngs and Stiles. Not to mention if one of our shared picks don't obit, we'll both fall behind. Some very great teams this year, and as I said before, I think it'll be a while before we can guess the true contenders...

We can arrange that ;-)

They might not right now, but for anybody using the threads as a reference later on it would be helpful to post deaths in the appropriate thread.

Made a Venn-diagram over the three main types of deathpooling picks and how they intersect. Using this as a template, where do your picks fit in? Cancer mums: Those who are neither famous (in the traditional meaning of the word) nor old, but quite ill or even terminal. Obitability is a toss-up, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. List of the Lost: Those who are both old and ill, but lack the necessary fame to get obits when they do die. Theme team fillers: Similar to the above, except there are no known health issues (other than old age). Usually used to fill out remaining spots for theme teams. The worst kind of picks for ambitious deathpoolers. Olivia de Havilland: Famous old people that have no problems with their health. The kind pick that tends to stay on the DeathList for years and years by virtue of their fame. Non-serious picks, i.e. Bieber: Usually wishful thinking, and/or not really taking the competition seriously. Could also be part of some theme teams. DL-types: Look up the word "deathlisty" in the DeathList glossary lexicon at your local library, and this is what you will see: Someone who is both old enough, sick enough and famous enough to be a prime candidate for the committee. Title-winning picks: These are the ones that guarantee high scores by being terminally ill, relatively young and left a sufficient mark in Britain to get a write-up in newspapers such as BBC.

Imagine if I'd had her as a wildcard. Also congrats to ever had Thomas S Monson or should that be commiserations. The annoying but frequent 1 pointer.

Jimmy Carter or Betty White.

I would like to compete in the 2018 Royal Rumble Deathlist Cup

She is a rather interesting figure,and since she holds political office if her health takes a turn for the worst it will become public knowledge. 100% is someone who deserves a place on the deathlist top 50 in a future year.

Oh there's still time variety is the spice of my life I make sure of it!

Hope all ends up alright with him Willz

Ok, here you go: my post-vote "analysis" George Bush being top is staggering. Leah Bracknell was first to break every point record, and in mid-December, had a 200 point lead over 2nd place. Which wasn’t Bush! Bush gained 258 points in the last 48 hours of 2017, compared to Bracknell’s 220. I think in the end, Bush’s 31 lists to Bracknell’s mere 28 was the clincher, but they both got such high votes that the Bush comeback was so incremental, bit by bit, the odd extra point here and there, that I never spotted it coming until the very last vote came in and suddenly Bush had overtaken our favourite shaman healer. Astounding. John McCain was a newcomer and never in doubt. 29 lists saw to that! At one point he was top, but then Brackers took control. Then he fell below Nobby Stiles for a long time before regaining a lot of votes. The top three all got lots of support, of course, because they are very good picks indeed. I made a veiled reference to Kirk Douglas missing the list in early December. As you can see, I should have waited. His points came in and they came in huge. There really is very little to say about Vera Lynn, Robert Mugabe, Prince Philip, Olivia Neutron-Bomb, or Rev Billy G. They all got lots of votes. They were all voted on by over half the voters. Nobby Stiles didn’t make last years list. Considerably upswing in votes! He was even 3rd for a long time before a late slip. Clive James snuck onto last years list, with a few late votes making it look better than it did. After a half year of no articles, and very little interviews, James is a case of absence making the heart fonder, and James appeared on many many lists. In a reverse of last year, fewer points late on meant his top 10 spot vanished. And so Leslie Philips jumped into 11th place. Glynis Johns seems to be beneficiary of the Spade Law. Namely, Spade Cooley is a poster on Deathlist Forums, people like Spade, Spade likes Glynis, people like Glynis as a result. Though given that might be why someone else is on this list, you know, people in glasshouses… Even so, the points on offer for Johns were staggering, and she was 6th for most of the voting, before the final day pushed her down to 15th. Barbara Bush, lots of voters, lots of points, late flourish to overtake Tessa. Dilip Kumar and Olivia de Havilland also got lots of votes and regular points in this way. Ditto Charlotte Rae, whose voters tended to give her very high votes. Tessa Jowell was a big points spender, and yet, might fell unappreciated to finish 19th – for while her points didn’t dry up, the points for Herman Wouk and Barbara Bush increased more substantially, so a higher spot was lost. Those who picked LazyTown’s Stefan Karl Stefansson went very high with points. Denis Norden was one of those names that kept showing up with random regularity. With 112 points by 1st December, Jill Gascoine had already set out a strong head start on pretenders to her spot. From then on her voters tended to vote high for her. A huge jump from 48th place last year. Former Pope Benedict is difficult to search out the points for because everyone has a different name for him! Sort of dropped off in interest in the second half of December, had been threatening a top 15 spot before that. Jimmy Carter appeared on 15 lists and his points were spread out through the voting period. He was always in the 20-30 spots. Franco Zeffireli is the lowest ranked person to get at least 5 top ten votes. Again, never in doubt. Sidney Poiter got a chunk of votes (100) from 26-31 December, and a chunk of points (200) from the start to the 5th December. Nicely spread out. Most of Greg Gilberts votes had arrived in by 3rd December, but it was enough. Made up 320 of his points from 16th December onwards. Gorbachev looked set to miss out early on. While 13 lists meant Fernando Ricksen was unlikely to miss out on a second consecutive list. In fact, the fortnight of being MIA from lists in mid-December meant he slipped from 10th place downwards before a late charge back up. Lord Carrington appeared on 14 lists. 150 points before November was out meant he was never missing his list debut. Those of who who went for John Hume all gave him 25 points at the very least. A bunch of points post-Christmas secured his place, though he looked likely from the early going. Seven of the ten voters for Linda Nolan came before the 14th December. At that point, she was in the top ten. She dropped significantly but those early points were more than enough. Those who picked Stan Lee tended to place him quite highly. Ditto Montserrat Caballe, who appeared on only 9 lists but as you can see from the maths, very highly on those lists! Joanne Woodward got her points in 3 quick bursts – November, mid-December, and then end of the year. Lots of early points gave Jean of Luxembourg an early lead, he never looked in danger of not qualifying. The forum mentions about the great Diana Athill’s 100th birthday saw a points bonanza head her way. Jacques Chirac was going to miss out on the list entirely until 5 posters gave him 80 points combined in the last week of the year. Even so, a massive fall from grace for Chirac, even if he’s actually ONLY down 2 points on 2017! I thought I wasn’t getting a chance at usually the really shit pun headline… Alberto Fujimori got 200 of his post from Christmas Day and onwards. Can’t think why… Again, if you appeared on 10 lists at least, and average a spot at 25 or higher you had a good chance of the list, like Valerie Harper did here. Another late arrival, Bob Dole’s appearance was confirmed by a forum heavyweight on Boxing Day. 40 more points on Hogmanay made sure. Pearl Carr has been heavily promoted on the forum over the years by Maryport, so is a pick gaining in awareness, plus had rumblings of being really quite ill last year. Carr only appeared on 7 lists, but those who did pick her, went high. Liam Miller was always likely to contend for a spot but 100 points in the last 3 days made sure. Bonus cheer for the voter who wasn’t sure I’d have heard of him! Points here and there got Beverly Cleary onto the list. Until about the 24th December, I thought Monica Vitti would avoid appearing for the 2nd time, and then the big points started arriving. She has some big fans on this forum, who are regular voters for her. Pan Breed favourite Mary Wilson naturally got big points from yours truly, I always give her high points. Unlike other years, other people actually voted for her, and while her points nearly dried entirely up by mid-December it was enough! Diana Serra Cary got 128 points on Hogmanay. Yoko Ono made a late charge for the list with 27 points in the last 4 days to just sneak on the list. Val Kilmer appeared on 11 lists, and so kept chugging along in the lower 40s, despite my willing him to drop out of contention. Morgan Tsvangari was picked by a bunch of people in the middle spots, and those points add up. Crucial to his qualification, however, was our very first voter, who gave him 49 points. Of the near misses: Spare a thought for Stephen Hawking, Anne Hamilton-Bryne and Norman Lloyd. In the main team for 95% of the nomination period, then swamped out by the 8 lists on the final day. Replaced in the end by Yoko Ono, Diana Serra Cary and Liam Miller. Stirling Moss, Sean Connery and Kamala tried to make late comebacks but left it just too late…

Still believe Sheila Mercier would have been an excellent and worthy pick for the committee.

So, source for death reports is some twitter bot called the Just Died Bot, which scrapes Wiki for news of celeb deaths and tweets RIP messages. My guess? Someone messed with JEJ's Wiki entry, it was up for long enough that the bot sent out the message, and it caught the notice of a couple of twitter users - rumours have mostly died out after the first hour or so.

According to the new Meat Loaf bio by Mick Wall, both Loaf and Steinman are in terrible health. It sounds like Steinman will be the first to go though as he has had multiple heart attacks and strokes, is confined to a wheelchair and "will never write another song". Always very eccentric, his mental health has apparently declined a lot more as well in recent times. Loaf's voice is ruined and the book talks about his collapses on stage but he is apparently holding up a bit better. The book is worth a quick flip through if you see it on the shelf in a shop.

As always I gaze in awe at the scale of this undertaking and plan to be involved because it would be disrespectful to ignore this titan of dead pools

Next update after correcting for Drop 40 and unique picks (only 99% complete): 1. The Love Boat - 144,77 2. A Day in the Death - 142,66 3. David Quantick's Showbiz Pals - 140,49 4. Pan Breed - 136,2 5. To Kill a Gabor Sister - 135,73 6. Thomas Jefferson Survives - 135,395 7. Golden Slumbers - 135,13 8. Garn2 - 133,1 9. Still Life - 131,26 10. drol 130,94 11. I'm sorry for your trouble - 130,15 12. The Living End 127,55 Point boosts to everyone because of all the Drop 40 picks, now that the probability isn't somehwere between zero and one, but either zero or one. And it turns out that there wasn't THAT much of a difference between the participants on this forum and the general public. Surprising Drop 40 members like Errol Christie and John Wetton outweigh the cases of "random universally known old people"; like Jacuqes Chirac or Pope Benedikt XVI. I would say that the quality of deadpooling has improved in comparison to last year. The new people entering the DDP had a good look at the forum before submitting. For the next update, I want to find the Top Ten candidates who have not presented their teams in the forum before.